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[CONFLICT] Avenging Al-Quds: Operation HOTAMAH

2020.09.04 23:23 globalwp [CONFLICT] Avenging Al-Quds: Operation HOTAMAH

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“The UAR shall not stand idly as the Zionist entity slaughters our people, destroys our sacred sites, and tramples upon our honor. The UAR has launched a strike on the Zionist menace to punish them for desacrating the sanctity of the holy city. Jerusalem is to be free and open to people of all faiths. We can no longer tolerate fascism in the region. The last vestige of colonialism in the Middle East shall soon be eradicated. Let it be known that the UAR will fight for what is right, and we will do what we must to liberate Palestine once and for all. Israel will immediately withdraw from the occupied territories, and the lands will be restored to their rightful owners. Be warned, for our use of nuclear weapons was limited, and intended to reduce the blood shed by this war. We do not aim to eradicate the Jewish people, who are innocent bystanders born into fascist rule, but we seek to eradicate the power structures which have led to the oppression and subjugation of an entire nation, culminating in a direct attack and insult on both Arabs and Muslims across the world. Should we not act quickly, St. James’s Cathedral, and the Church of the Holy Sepulchre would be next. Be warned, we will no longer tolerate such behaviour, and while we do not wish to harm civilians, we warn Israel that any nuclear retaliation would be grounds for a ten-fold response. The Falcon has awakened, and now soars with the Phoenix.” - Prime Minister Al-Zaidi, hours after the initial attack
The UAR, already in a state of high alert, and already mobilized due to the previous Iranian war, can afford to quickly mobilize its troops and move forward, providing it with a decisive advantage over its Israeli counterparts. The “military exercise” was but a ruse, and the UAR now seeks to liberate Palestine and establish a one-state binational solution by force, ending the Israeli occupation of lands stolen almost 90 years ago.
The destruction of Al-Aqsa and the planned “temple” has galvanized public opinion to a point where most muslims would consider joining the fight against Israel. It will thus be easy to recruit additional auxiliary units both from Palestine and from the Islamic world as a whole. As plans enacted by Jordan, Egypt, Turkey, and the UAR, come to fruition, one statement is becoming a reality, Jerusalem will be freed!

Opening Phase - Operation Hotamah

Woe to every backbiter, slanderer,
Who amasses wealth and counts it over and over.
He imagines that his wealth will make him immortal.
Nay! he shall surely be cast into the "hotamah".
And what should make thee know what the "hotamah" is?
Allah's fire as preserved fuel,
Which will leap suddenly on to the hearts.
It is locked up in outstretched pillars to be used against them. 1 - Quran 104-2
The Land-Based Missiles
With troops deployed in Jordan, and on the Zionist-UAR border, the UAR is poised to make a surprise first strike on the enemy’s most prized possession. Their nuclear weapons.
Israeli nuclear weapons are located mainly in one site, warehouses near Sdot Micha. While they may be potentially rated against conventional airstrikes, they would be unable to withstand a direct hit from a nuclear weapon, let alone a ground penetrating nuclear bunker buster. Israel’s other nuclear weapons are located on submarines that would presumably be located thanks to the UAR’s established hydrophone network in Lebanon.. Thus the main objective would be to overwhelm the enemy’s air defenses.
This will involve 5 different sources and directions forcing them to defend territory in 360 degrees in addition to a suter attack by EC-130 ELINT to paint the false picture of a clear sky prior to the attack:
Between the 75,000 rockets (including precision munitions), Hamas’s missiles, 1,500 cruise missiles, 2,000 ballistic missiles, and 200 JASSMs, it is highly unlikely that the Israelis will manage to intercept specifically the 5 INTIQAM-2TAAs that would be dropped on the area. A few cruise missiles alone are hard to intercept if taken by surprise, let alone thousands. The fireball would likely vaporize the neighbouring moshav of Sdot Micha, as well as Sdot Micha Airbase. The largest settlement that would be affected by the detonation would be Bet Shemesh which would suffer from the shockwave. The Negev Nuclear Research Centre in Dimona would similarly be targeted as well. This would effectively render Israel nuke-less and unable to retaliate.
Objective:
The Sub Hunt
The UAR Hydrophone network should reveal the locations of the submarines in Israel’s control. The UAR will deploy its fleet of ASW aircraft and ships to hunt the subs that are located to prevent them from firing. This will occur simultaneously with the attack to bring the UAR’s sub hunters within range to destroy the Israeli submarines within minutes of the initial salvo firing, faster than the time it takes for the news of a nuclear strike to travel to the 5 isolated subs.
Knowing vaguely where they are, ASW helicopters can be used to pinpoint their direct locations and thus allow them to be neutralized by torpedo fired either by helicopter, submarine, or surface the Sea Hunter Autonomous ASW ship designed specifically for this purpose. The limited range of fire of the enemy’s cruise missile systems used for nuclear weapons delivery dramatically reduce the search range. The following units will be deployed for this purpose:
Sub Hunter Group 1:
3 Arleigh Burke Flight II Destroyer 3 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers 2 Sea Hunter Autonomous ASW Ship 1 Sea Fighter LCS 5 Silorsky ASW Helicopter 1 Los Angeles Class Submarine
Sub Hunter Group 2: (First searches Tiran, then moves back to the Med.)
3 Arleigh Burke Flight II Destroyer 3 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers 2 Sea Hunter Autonomous ASW Ship 1 Sea Fighter LCS 5 Silorsky ASW Helicopter
Sub Hunter Group 3:
3 Arleigh Burke Flight II Destroyer 3 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers 2 Sea Hunter Autonomous ASW Ship 1 Giuseppe Garibaldi-class ASW Carrier 15 AS332 Super Puma ASW Helicopter
Sub Hunter Group 4:
3 Arleigh Burke Flight II Destroyer 3 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers 2 Sea Hunter Autonomous ASW Ship 1 Independence Class LCS 5 Silorsky ASW Helicopter
Sub Hunter Group 5:
3 Arleigh Burke Flight II Destroyer 3 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers 2 Sea Hunter Autonomous ASW Ship 1 Independence Class LCS 5 Silorsky ASW Helicopter
An additional 25 Sayeh Naval Drone (clone of ScanEagle), with ranges of up to 100 km, will be launched to help in the detection of enemy submarines.
Objective:

Hotamah Phase II

After the nuclear strike which would end Israel’s nuclear arsenal, which would last in the order of minutes, followup strikes would be ordered on their airbases as a horde of UAR Aircraft begin dropping JASSM and SEAD munitions on Israeli air defense in the area, targeting aircraft believed to be nuclear capable while still on the ground.
With UAR Air Defenses featuring quantum radar technologies obtained from China, and the UAR’s newest aircraft featuring advanced stealth suites and EW, it is hoped that the enemy’s air defenses would be promptly suppressed and enemy aircraft that do manage to take off shot down. Operating the Arrow 3 as an ABM, the David’s Sling as an air defense system, and the iron dome as an anti-rocket system, the Israelis have a decent air defense system… for the 2010s.
Extensive use will be made of EW aircraft to scramble enemy defenses during the attack, as well as simply strength in numbers as the Israelis cannot hope to intercept the large barrage of missiles fired from Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Gaza, the air, and the Mediterranean sea at the same time 5 F-16CJ ELINT will be used for this purpose in addition to the 2 EC-130 ELINT aircraft mentioned earlier.
The UAR will also fire 20 conventional Mudafi’ missiles, designed to counter the Arrow III, the schematics for which were generously provided by our allies in Laurentia. Combined with further tomahawk strikes on airbases and air defenses, as well as mass JASSM strikes and artillery barrages where applicable, the airbases and the air defenses presumably deployed at the [following sites]()https://i.imgur.com/zJqN5y5.png will be destroyed, hopefully with much of the IAF as well. Emphasis will be placed on the early destruction of Nevatim Air base due to the presence of F-35s in that airbase.
The UAR has deployed a total of 180 5th generation aircraft, aircraft that are more advanced than the F-35 which defeated the F-15 with 20:1 odds. With experience in Iran, the UAR’s capable fighters will attempt to destroy much of the Israeli Air Force while they're still on the ground following the first wave of coordinated SEAD strikes on enemy air defense systems.
Israeli air bases will also be hit by a further salvo of 100 Tomahawk missiles each while the SEAD strikes are ongoing. Continued suppressive fire from Hezbollah and Hamas missiles will further augment the chances of the more sophisticated missiles hitting their mark.
Fortifications in the Golan Heights as well as Lebanon and the West Bank of the Jordan river will be struck in subsequent strikes and neutralized.
Aircraft deployed:
Once Phase 1 is complete and the Israeli air defense network is suppressed, the 580 aircraft deployed will assist with CAS operations and will bomb enemy supply lines.
The above aircraft will be supported by the Turkish deployment of F-16s that would perform similar strike operations, as well as friendly B-21 bombers from friendly Laurentian bases.
Objective:
Ground Operations
Map
Northern Deployment (250,000 men)
Amount Item Type
350 Engesa EE-50 Tanks
150 Altay Tanks
150 T-26 Tanks
250 M1A2S Tanks
100 T-90 Tanks
1100 M113 APC
300 LAV 6 APC
125 Tuwaiq-2 APC
250 Al-Shbil APC
75 Sarrir APC
200 Fahd APC APC
2050 APCs
150 S.A.U.D Vehicle Drone Vehicle
25 Type 08 IFV IFV
100 M2A2 IFV
25 AMX-10P IFV
300 IFVs
1500 Al-Masmak MRAP
500 Toofan MRAP
250 Oshkosk M-ATV MRAP
25 Digori Medevac Medevac
2275 MRAPs
245 Raad self Propelled Artillery (with basir laser guidance) SPA
150 M109 SPA
2 Chinese Artillery Battery SPA
8 Jobaria MLRS
42 PHZ-89 MLRS MLRS
447 Artillery/MLRS
20 Denel Rooivalk Attack Helicopter
8 Denel Rooivalk (SAUD) Attack Helicopter
40 AH-64 Apache Attack Helicopter
15 Aérospatiale Gazelle utility / scout
15 Boeing CH-47F Chinook Utility
20 Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk Utility
20 Bell 212 Utility
5 Aérospatiale Gazelle scout / anti-armor
347 Heydar 1 Autonomous Swarm Robot
50 Nazir UGV
150 CAIG Wing Loong UCAV
15 Ababil UCAV
2 Ramah-II Air Defense System
10 LPD-1 Laser Point Defense System
15,000 Misc Trucks Supply Trucks
The UAR currently operates several satellites such as the Yaogan series which can be used to determine the bulk of Israel’s positions and bases prior to the attack.
In the initial attack, the Jobaria MLRS systems will provide firepower to demolish much of Israel’s fortifications in the Golan heights, feigning an attack from the Syrian side. However, knowing that the Syrian side is the most fortified compared to the Lebanese side, the UAR’s main northern advance will come from Lebanon. The intention is to pin down as many Israeli troops in the Golan Heights as possible while sending troops pouring southwards towards a line established from Haifa to Tiberias. Cutting off the bulk of the Israeli troops that would eventually run out of supply, the offensive would hopefully see the Golan and much of the Galilee fall to the UAR.
In the Golan Heights, extensive use of Nazir UGVs and Heydar Autonomous Swarm Vehicles will be used to combat minefields. Controlled from a distance, and with support from drones, the vehicles would be able to clear minefields with a minimal loss of life. The Jobaria strike, each of which fires 240 missiles per salvo, will assist in the destruction of minefields and defenses in the area. One Jobaria is said to cover an area of 4 km2, 8 would cover far more. The Golan contingent will represent 2/5ths of the total force, with 3/5ths being deployed to Lebanon. The UNFIL will kindly be asked to leave/step aside.
The Arabs in this section, which make up 53% of the population, will be encouraged to rise up, and Arab localities will be given small arms via airdrop. Seeing as they are actively discriminated against, and saw their holy sites destroyed, they would be more than willing to assist the UAR in liberating their homeland. Of the 700,000 Arabs in the territory, it is expected that some 70,000 would assist. They will be used to police the area and maintain the occupations of villages and towns liberated by UAR forces. This includes the Golan heights where a large number of Israeli troops would be stationed.
UAR forces boast a multitude of drones, partially deployed by S.A.U.D drone vehicles (ie a successful version of the Dakotan slaughterbot project) which release swarms that can be used to provide full battlefield awareness to soldiers via their personal helmet augmented reality HUDs. This would drastically reduce the cost of urban warfare and when combined with the larger UCAVs and UAVs flying overhead, helps integrate air, land, and sea combined firepower.
Extensive use of the UAR’s superior artillery and aerial intelligence will be used to target armored columns and harass enemy supply lines, ensuring that the UAR is well supplied in comparison to the Israelis. Close air support from helicopters as well as support air strikes from the aircraft deployed to the skies will help speed up the advance.
Furthermore, the UAR’s experience in urban warfare, owing to its abilities in the Syrian, Lebanese, Saudi, and Iranian wars will provide its professional army with an edge over the conscription based Israeli army who’s dated combat experience is largely based on waving guns at unarmed protestors and Palestinian children.
Objectives:
Southern Deployment (250,000 men)
Amount Item Type
350 Engesa EE-50 Tanks
150 Altay Tanks
150 T-26 Tanks
250 M1A2S Tanks
100 T-90 Tanks
1100 M113 APC
300 LAV 6 APC
125 Tuwaiq-2 APC
250 Al-Shbil APC
75 Sarrir APC
200 Fahd APC APC
2050 APCs
150 S.A.U.D Vehicle Drone Vehicle
25 Type 08 IFV IFV
100 M2A2 IFV
25 AMX-10P IFV
300 IFVs
1500 Al-Masmak MRAP
500 Toofan MRAP
250 Oshkosk M-ATV MRAP
25 Digori Medevac Medevac
245 Raad self Propelled Artillery (with basir laser guidance) SPA
150 M109 SPA
2 Chinese Artillery Battery SPA
8 Jobaria MLRS
42 PHZ-89 MLRS MLRS
80 M88 Armored Recovery vehicle
20 Denel Rooivalk Attack Helicopter
8 Denel Rooivalk (SAUD) Attack Helicopter
40 AH-64 Apache Attack Helicopter
15 Aérospatiale Gazelle utility / scout
5 Aérospatiale Gazelle scout / anti-armor
20 Mil Mi-17 Utility Helicopter
20 Mil Mi-24 Utility Helicopter
347 Heydar 1 Autonomous Swarm Robot
50 Nazir UGV
150 CAIG Wing Loong UCAV
15 Ababil UCAV
2 Ramah-II Air Defense System
10 LPD-1 Laser Point Defense System
15,000 Misc Trucks Supply Trucks
Operating over 50 bridges, and with air cover from Jordanian based air defense systems, the UAR will cross the Jordan River with three main thrusts, north, central, and south, which would be of equal size. This will involve the destruction of Israeli forces on the other side of the river through mass artillery. With what can only be described as the largest artillery barrage in history the entirety of the West Bank of the Jordan that is fortified by Israel will be struck by 471 Artillery units in addition to salvos fired by 50 MLRS systems with salvos of 3600 rounds per strike. This will be supplemented by air strikes from UCAVs and friendly aircraft.
In the north, defined as the West Bank to the Golan Heights, troops will attempt a push forward with similar tactics to that mentioned in the previous section towards Umm Al-Fahm to Nazareth. The pressure put on the Golan front will pin down troops that do not wish to forgo the high ground, as the unexpected large bridge crossing would occur. Once again, urban areas will be dealt with using the UAR’s drone tactics. 2/5ths of the Jordanian force will be deployed here. In the West Bank, the objective in sight is Jerusalem, as troops will attempt to seize much of the West Bank with support from artillery and air units. Liberated Palestinians who would be more than willing to fight will be provided with AKM rifles and shall act as auxiliaries. In the West Bank, with a population of approximately 4 million people (estimate based on 2%), at least 400,000 men would be willing to join. The destruction of the holy sites would see nearly every eligible man join the fight, and as such 400k is extremely conservative and a figure of closer to 2 million would be likely. The West Bank should already be in open revolt given the actions at Al-Aqsa, and as such the advance would be facilitated by Israeli troops being largely bogged down by the fighting . Friendly units in the region will work to sabotage Israeli military positions and supply lines and shall assist the advance, particularly in Jerusalem proper. 2/5ths of the Jordanian force will be deployed here.
Once the troops reach Jerusalem, special care will be taken to prevent the destruction of additional holy sites, and prevent Israel from destroying sensitive Holy sites important to Arabs such as the Church of the Holy Sepulhcre and the St. James Cathedral. Jerusalem’ population, which is 38% Arab despite Israeli ethnic cleansing, will be instrumental to assisting the UAR’s advance.
In the south, along the Negev Desert, troops will establish a land connection to Egypt by Seizing Eilat. The Negev is sparsely populated, and relatively open, allowing large armored units to be targeted from the skies and by missile. Urban combat is similarly less of a concern as the towns are notably smaller, and easier to place under martial law. UAVs and UCAVs will be used extensively to destroy armored columns, as the battle becomes one of range and maneuvering. Friendly Bedouins, Muslims who make up 25% of the Negev’s population, will be used as local auxiliary units, with some 20-30k out of the 400k strong population (estimate based on 1%) willing to assist. With 1/5th of the Jordanian force deployed here, the objective is to push forward and control Highway 40 (Line from Eilat to Beersheeba to the West Bank) by attacking from the east.
Once again, given the range of the UAR’s air defense systems in Jordan, the troops should be reasonably protected against Israeli incursions as the Quantum Radar batteries should be able to easily pick up the few F-35s that may have survived the original blast, and most certainly the F-16s that survived.
Objectives:

Air Defense

The UAR boasts some of the tightest air defense systems in the world, with numerous layers of Radar tested specifically against the type of aircraft Israel is expected to deploy with successful tests. The Quantum radar within the chinese designed, UAR produced HQ-90 ABM and Air Defense System provides the UAR with protection against stealth aircraft and ballistic missile threats within 600 km [Analogous to an upgraded S-500]. The Ramah-II Quantum Systems provide 100 km of coverage [Analogous to an upgraded Patriot] and protection from cruise missiles and stealth aircraft. The LPD-I laser point defense batteries provide laser point defense within 20 km against smaller munitions. Additionally, THAAD, and Patriot batteries have been deployed across the country as well as HQ-19 batteries, integrated with the quantum radar suites elsewhere.
While the UAR already has a vast array of air defense systems deployed, it shall be deploying additional systems to key sites including:
Each site will be protected with 3 HQ-90 Batteries, 2 Patriot Batteries, 2 Ramah-II Batteries, and 1 LPD-1 Batteries. 2 THAAD Batteries will be placed at Medina, Damascus, and Beirut and 1 THAAD Battery will be placed in Baghdad.
This layout ensures that cruise missiles fired from the mediteranean will have ample time to be detected and intercepted by the Ramah-II batteries designed specifically for this purpose, with multiple layers of security should a missile fail to be intercepted. With each HQ-90 battery being able to intercept and track up to 20 missiles at a time within 3 seconds of firing, each deployment should theoretically be able to protect against the entirety of the Israeli nuclear arsenal which is estimated at 80-120 nuclear weapons. With 60 HQ-90 systems deployed, as well as redundancies and overlapping coverage, the UAR should be able to intercept anything that Israel may have been able to save.
The UAR has not forgotten its allies, as it has already deployed 5 HQ-90 Quantum ABM/ADS Batteries, 10 Patriot-3 Batteries in the above cities, 30 LPD-1, and 15 Ramah-II in Amman, Irbid, Ma’an, Ajloun, and Russeifa. Jordan’s location between Israel and much of the UAR means that these systems would intercept missiles headed for the UAR as well. The Egyptian deployment similarly consists of 5 HQ-90 ABM Systems,10 Ramah-II ACM Batteries, and 10 LPD Laser Point Defense Batteries deployed to Alexandria, Asyut, Cairo, Aswan, and Port Said.
To further improve interception chances, 10 KJ-3000 AWAC, 6 Boeing E-3s, and 2 Saab 2000s will be used to provide round the clock airborne warning and control to track potential hostile airborne threats.
Lastly, the Arleigh Burkes currently deployed in the Mediterranean theatre are equipped with an AEGIS SM-2 system that would be capable of intercepting missiles fired from the Mediterranean sea within range. This provides yet another layer of protection from enemy missiles.
Note that the deployment of batteries in Lebanon, Jordan, and Egypt, allow for the UAR’s air coverage to include the entirety of Israel greatly affecting the enemy’s abilities to field aircraft.
Objective:

Naval Deployment

The naval deployment intends to neutralize Israel’s submarine based nuclear arsenal by deploying various “Sub-hunter Groups” that would utilize intelligence about submarine positions in the relatively shallow Mediteranean (compared to the open sea). These groups would neutalize the submarines and then work towards eliminating the Israeli surface fleet, be it in port or in the water. The bulk of the force will be in the mediteranean, with Sub Hunter Group 3 clearing the Straits of Tiran prior to moving back to the Meditereanean.
Sub Hunter Group 1:
3 Arleigh Burke Flight II Destroyer 3 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers 2 Sea Hunter Autonomous ASW Ship 1 Sea Fighter LCS 5 Silorsky ASW Helicopter 1 Los Angeles Class Submarine
Sub Hunter Group 2:
3 Arleigh Burke Flight II Destroyer 3 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers 2 Sea Hunter Autonomous ASW Ship 1 Sea Fighter LCS 5 Silorsky ASW Helicopter
Sub Hunter Group 3:
3 Arleigh Burke Flight II Destroyer 3 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers 2 Sea Hunter Autonomous ASW Ship 1 Giuseppe Garibaldi-class ASW Carrier 15 AS332 Super Puma ASW Helicopter
Sub Hunter Group 4:
3 Arleigh Burke Flight II Destroyer 3 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers 2 Sea Hunter Autonomous ASW Ship 1 Independence Class LCS 5 Silorsky ASW Helicopter
Sub Hunter Group 5:
3 Arleigh Burke Flight II Destroyer 3 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers 2 Sea Hunter Autonomous ASW Ship 1 Independence Class LCS 5 Silorsky ASW Helicopter
An additional “Fleet Destroyer” Group which would destroy the Israeli surface fleet while the other groups hunt for submarines, in port on on the water, the enemy’s ships will be destroyed. This will be made up of:
3 Arleigh Burke Flight II Destroyer 3 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers 2 Medina Class Frigates 3 Badr Class Corvettes
Extensive use of Naval UAVs such as the Sayeh Drone and the Fotros Drone will be used in eliminating the enemy’s naval capabilities. Munition drones, specifically, some 400 LJ-2 drones, will target Israeli warships during naval engagements to increase the odds of a direct hit. Aircraft mentioned in previous sections, once air superiority is achieved, will assist in dropping AshM munitions on the enemy.
Once the enemy’s fleet is destroyed, naval assets will provide shore bombardment support to attack Israeli Army positions.
Objective:
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How many times have you pooped yourself while running? Once. It wasn't a lot, more like a nugget of poop popped out. I'll usually stop on the side of a trail and do the business, but that time I was trying to make it back to the bathrooms since I was so close to the parking lot. I was still holding the rest in, and once I got to the toilet and let the rest out, I realized that I should never, ever again start a 12mile run sorta feeling like I should use the restroom. I probably never had such a painful poop in my life.
So when you go trail-side, do you try to wipe with a leaf or anything? Or just let run with the Klingons still on board? If the leaf is safe, I'll wipe with that. But there are times I have finished a run with only one sock.
If you were to predict the 3 who were going to qualify for the 1500, who would it be? David Torrence, David Torrence, annnddddd David Torrence. Because I spit hot fire.
How many people have shouted "RUN FORREST" at you? When I was in High School training in Downtown Los Angeles my team and I got that a lot. Once I got to college I never heard that anymore, probably because I stopped running on streets and moved more towards trails.
However, I really wish somebody would say it to me now, because I have the PERFECT comeback to it.
If somebody ever yells "RUN FORREST RUN!" at you, simply respond loudly: "I'VE GOT TO FIND BUBBA!"
Loyola.... That school edged us out by 13 points for the state championship in cross country last year... You familiar with Elias Gedyon? I am very much familiar with Elias. I tried to get him to go to Cal, but he ended up choosing Oregon which didn't really work out for him. I was at the state meet last year too, watching and signing autographs for Nike!
What is your resting pulse rate and jogging pulsrate? How about blood pressure? Do you shave everywhere? Do you get to meat other athletes a lot? Resting is usually around 55bpm, an easy recovery jog I'll be around 140bpm. I have no clue about the blood pressure. I don't shave (hate razor burn and bumps), but I WILL trim my legs with hair clippers before a big race to feel a little faster. I meet tons of athletes, and enjoy a variety of foods around the world on my travels to races.
Nono my friend. do you get to have athlete sex where both of you have the stamina to go on for hours and are both in the best shape of your lives with less than like 10% body fat. This is what I meant by "meat" other athletes ' Just thinking about it is getting me all hot and bothered. I have had athlete sex, and it is everything you've imagined and more.
Do you make enough/any money doing this? If not, do you have a day job? Although the Olympic Games is the pinnacle of my sport, there are still TONS of big races, series, and events every year. I make a good amount off of prize money, appearance money, and the most from my sponsor Nike. I am a full-time professional athlete, and live pretty comfortably right now. If I had a family, it might be a different story though.
If you don't mind me asking (always preface personal financial questions with "If you don't mind me asking") what was the largest sum of prize money you won for a single event? $14,000 at the US Road Mile Championships.
$4000 for the win, and an additional $10,000 bonus for breaking 4min.
At the time when I first one this race, I was unsponsored and had about 1.5 month's rent left in my bank account. I ran for the sake of my career that day, and man did that money come in huge. You can watch the race here.
Oh wow. That was amazing. Knowing the financial back story, and the fact you got the extra 10k by ONE SECOND I am positive I would have just broken down crying if I were you. Here's my post-race reaction.
I was pretty pumped.
Damn dude! You hit the Red Button at that last 400. I don't run but damn that was impressive to watch. Thanks, I actually felt terrible that entire race, and thought that Jon Rankin (the guy that lead most of the race) had it in the bag. I just tried to maintain contact, and kind of realized after halfway that I was slowly getting closer. When he didn't take the tangent, I knew that was my chance to catch him off guard and strike.
This is my favourite running video of all time, captures the essence of racing: the combination of fitness and intelligence that can get you the win. In regards to my career.
What does your diet look like? How often do you train? I train 7 days a week, and twice a day usually 3-4 of those 7. I'll take a day completely off though every 2 weeks or so.
I don't have a specific diet, but I just try to stay away from processed foods and the like. I'll have cheeseburgers and pizza, as long as its made with good/real foods.
How many calories do you usually average per day? About 3500.
Have you ever tried to run backwards and why? Yes I have. After some joking and betting with some teammates, we ran a backwards 400m. I don't remember the time, but I do know that once I finish running forward competitively, I will SMASH all the backwards running world records.
off, huge fan! I'm a collegiate miler as well and Im really curious what your pre race rituals are (if any) and if you could give one piece of advice to a 4:05 miler to dip under the barrier, what would it be? I don't really have a pre-race ritual. A lot of guys I know listen to music and try to "get in the zone" but I try to be a bit more aloof about it. I've found getting too far into the zone actually makes me TOO nervous, and then my performance suffers a bit. So I talk and joke around with people. I usually drink a coffee about 90min before the race, but if I can't get one, no big deal.
I'll give you a few pieces of advice: Don't get injured, don't overtrain, and negative split. All you need is consistent time training. Getting hurt usually throws a wrench into that. You will break through eventually, good luck!
I work at a coffee shop right accross the street from hayward field where the trials are. i got you covered on a free pre race coffee ;-) Awesome, what shop is that?! I'll definitely take you up on it!
Just out of curiosity, why do you go with coffee and not caffeine pills? You get to avoid the liquid and you're a lot more certain of how much caffeine you're getting. I may have to check it out now!
Negative split? Really? In my old world, swimming, negative splits were pretty uncommon. It felt like I was leaving energy left on the table when I should have used it in the race. Definitely the norm for fast times in races of 1200m and above.
Are negative splits the norm for milers? How long did you swim though? I believe most swim events are pretty short, correct? So they'd be more like sprints instead of distance.
Isnt caffeine a banned substance at the olympics? Used to be, not anymore.
Are negative splits good/common at the top level? In high school track XD we were taught not to negative split. Yes, they are common and the best way to get the most out of your body. You never want to be dying in a race over 800m, you slow down too much.
Did you know that coffee supposedly contains a compound which blocks the performance enhancing effects of caffeine? So it would be better to just take a caffeine pill, except that caffeine is a banned substance isn't it? Caffeine used to be a banned substance, but not anymore. Thanks for the tip though, I'll check it out.
My coaches used to tell us that virtually everyone always had a little bit left at the end of a race. Obviously we weren't as talented as you. Does that hold true at all at the Olympic level, or are you completely drained at the end of a race? I'm pretty sure I leave it all out on the track. The difference is in training. When you see somebody super fast run a race, they are usually still moving/walking/jogging right after. That's because that's exactly how we train. We never finish hard workouts and then just stop, you always have to keep moving in order to recover better.
I would imagine you're only really truly spent after a marathon or ironman or ultras.
1500m/3:34.25 = 15.66mph. 1mi/3:54.01 = 15.38 mph. Would you attribute your faster 1500 rate to the greater accessibility of the metric system? Actually yes. The 1500m is run way more often than the mile, so I have more chances to run fast.
What is it that makes the last hundred meters add so much time on? 1mi=1600m if I'm correct. 1mi=1609m. But I think the reason the extra 109m takes so much longer is because we just don't run it that often. I could probably get my mile PR down to 3:50, but I just don't have as many opportunities.
What do you think life in the Olympic Village will be like? No clue, but I hope to find out. I hear it involves lots and lots of condoms.
Do you obstain from ejaculation for some time before a race like some boxers do before a fight? I never did, but then I learned about the 7-day no-fap testosterone boost. Thanks Reddit!
Do you actually enjoy running? Training everyday? That sounds terrible to me. To be bluntly honest, that's because you're out of shape.
It sucks because your body is weak and your mind has to fight in order to do what you want it to do. Therefore you suffer constantly.
For me, recovery runs are like beautiful walks through a park, but about twice as fast so I get to see twice as much. I'm not breathing hard, I'm not struggling or hurting, it's just your mind, body, and muscles all working effortlessly in unison.
And as for hard workouts, they are chances to better myself. They are an opportunity for me to see specifically where I am weak, where I need to work on, or conversely where I am totally fit. And then I work those specific areas, and see improvement. It's remarkably simple and gratifying, albeit incredibly difficult at times.
However, everyone can get into shape, and if you keep at it long enough, you'll eventually get to that point where you're no longer suffering every time you get out the door and exercise. Instead, you'll find it therapeutic, comforting, and exhilarating.
Hey great answers, thanks. I've just never really been a runner, in my mind. I played football and basketball when I was in High School and alway hated running specifically. I think I was never trained to run with correct posture and form. I think kids for the most part need to be taught the correct way to run sometimes. Agree or disagree? Any good resources for this. That's because running for you is always punishment, not something to enjoy. Once you get out of that mindset, you might like it more.
Also, who knows, maybe you're more of a sprinter, in which case there are great workouts for that too.
I think except for extreme cases, your body will know how to run the more you do it. You could always watch professional racers and notice how they run and copy it.
I used to go on 45 minute runs daily and I can't tell you how boring it was. It's not about how in shape you are, but, well I am not sure how you occupy your mind doing something that repetitive that long... That's why I mix it up with easy runs, track workouts, tempo runs, hill intervals, etc. Doing 45min runs everyday, on the same path or in the same general area can definitely get tedious and boring. Just depends on where you are and what you have access to.
I know he doesn't run your events, but what are your opinions on Oscar Pistorius competing in able-bodied competitions, and his qualification for the Olympics? How would you feel if an amputee runner ended up racing against you in the Olympics? This is an unpopular perspective, but I do believe it is a bit unfair. He DOES have an advantage. This blog explains it in pretty good detail. People exclaim "but he only has one leg!" but then I remind them that guys with no legs would destroy me in any distance race above 400m. There is a certain point at which the technology available can outperform human tissue, and we have to be aware of that to make sure things don't get twisted to the point that it is advantageous to have prosthetic limbs in races.
Good luck with your preparation. All that being said, he is definitely a hero of mine and an inspiration. And I kind of hope he still gets cleared to race. Maybe if he was in my race I'd feel a bit differently, who knows.
I'm guessing this is your first olympics. on a scale of 1-10, how excited are you ? In Track and Field, nobody in the US has qualified yet. That is determined at the Olympic Trials this June. But if I do make it, probably an 11.
Opinions on barefoot running? I think its great as a supplemental training tool when it is done on soft surfaces like grass, trail, sand, etc. Going barefoot or wearing Vibrams on concrete or asphalt is just asking for injuries (in my humble opinion).
There is a lot of discrepancy between just wearing vibrams/going barefoot, and actually changing your running form to a form encouraged by these shoes/bare feet. Namely, forefoot strike vs heel strike. How do you feel about forefoot striking in longer distance running? I used to run with a forefoot strike, but now I've moved more to a mid-foot strike as recommended by my coach. It feels a lot more efficient and powerful. I found with my forefoot strike I tended to overstride a bit.
David, first off you are an animal. Now, for my question. Who were your running role models back in high school and college? Prefontaine lol? I was never a big fan of Prefontaine. His style of racing and training to me is a bit...well, stupid. Push all out from the gun? No, you will fade and die and get passed at the end. It's harder and smarter to time your moves and put forth your maximal effort at the right time rather than just push from the start. I never really had a running role model, since runners in the US don't really get much media attention, but the one quote I think I enjoy the most, is from Noureddine Morceli: "When I step to the line, my mind is full of questions...'Who will be 2nd? Who will be 3rd?"
Why was he so successful if his running was stupid? The thing was, he wasn't as successful as everyone thinks. If you watch Pre's race at the olympics in Munich, he very well could have gotten a medal, but instead he surges wayyy too soon and as a result finishes 4th.
I'm not trying to say that he was a bad runner, but if his tactics were to be used today he would get absolutely destroyed.
Pre set 14 US records. Other than a couple extremely rare exceptions I can think of, my statement stands true: You cannot front run at that level in this day and age and win.
In this day and age?
Starting to look like in this day and age there are a lot of frontrunners whose racing tactics you disagree with that win Olympic gold medals and set world records. Not "very rarely". A lot. I'm not sure you understand what front-running is.
What is it like sprinting for a solid mile? I don't actually sprint for a full mile. After a lot of training, 58-60 second pace for 400m isn't really a sprint, just like a fast run. The only time I really feel like I'm sprinting all out is the last 200-300m.
How fast are your 100-200 times? I read an article about Galen Rupp, a top level 3k runner for those who don't know, and it said that he gets 10.7 in a 100, which is shockingly fast. He ran a "flying" 100 in 10.7, which means he was already at full speed when he started the 100m. It was still a surprise, because I thought he was much slower, but I imagine most middle distance runners could run that time.
I've finished hard workouts in 23.x before, but I've never really timed my all-out performance. I would hope I'd be able to crack 23.
How hard is it to time your training, diet and emotion to allow your body/mind to be at optimal peak at the moment of a once-in-a-life- time race like the olympics. Other races come and go and I'm sure you have good days and bad....how do you minimize the chance that the olympic trial or olympic event will be one of those bad days? Very good question, but the answer is actually pretty simple. You basically have to remember what you did in the past that works. Try not to do anything different. Some people try to do something "special" for the race/event because its such a big deal, but that's how you get into trouble. By introducing something new, your body may not know how to handle it, whether its food, training, or even how you mentally prepare for the race. However, as simple as this is, it is very hard to do. Because it IS such a big deal, its difficult not to try and do something "extra" to make sure you get everything out of you.
I also stay away from sick friends like they have the bubonic plague.
What was your mile time around 4th/5th grade? were you fastest in your school? I actually never ran track at that age, so I don't know. I mostly played basketball and football. Since I was young for my year, I was usually never the fastest in an all out sprint, but I was always able to outlast competitors and hustle to the last second of a long game.
Yeah but didn't you run the mile every yeatwice a year for gym class? i thought everyone did that. No not in my school! I never ran a full mile until my freshman year in High School. I ran 5:00.
Speaking of, can you give a little description about your transition from high school, to college, to pro. I'll see you at Hayward for the trials! What do you mean by "transition"? That's a bit of a vague question, what specifically about it do you want to know?
If this doesn't work out for you, do you think you'll try for the bobsled team in Sochi? Or just keep running and hope for Rio? I think will go back to the Andes of Peru and recruit a bobsled team for the Winter Olympics. On our team will be the tough guy, the talented one, the funny one, and probably a llama.
Don't forget the lucky egg. KISS IT.
What does competing in the Olympics mean to you? Great questions.
Is it more about the pure competition or representing your country? It would mean that I'm a part of a quest for human excellence. A part of an elite group of people that push their bodies past common limits and more. That I represent that instinctual drive for Faster, Higher, Stronger. It is also about pitting myself against the world. Stepping to that line and saying and believing "I am the best, I am stronger, I can hurt more than you can hurt, you cannot beat me."
How do you go about being selected for the Olympic team? It would probably be a bit more about the pure competition rather than representing my country. To me, the Olympics is a time when politics and governments and nationalities step aside to appreciate the wonder that is the human body, mind, and spirit...regardless of what country is on your chest.
Is it simply a matter of qualifying or do they recruit people? I compete in my country's Olympic Trials and have to place top 3 in the final race. Each country has different selection procedures.
When did you realistically think you could make it in the sport? Following the Puma Mile? Also, favourite track spike of all time? After my first sub-4min Mile in college during my 4th year, I knew how undertrained I was and how much more I could improve. It was then that I knew I could make it.
Favorite track spike of all time...this is tough. When the Nike Milers first came out, I thought track spikes had been perfected, and had probably never been that excited. But when the Victory's came out, I was just blown away by the design and weight. I would say the Milers to train in, and the Victory's to race in.
But both may be completely tossed aside when the NEW 1500m spikes come out for London...
Have you gotten to see the Nike Zoom Victory Elites yet (I assume that if you're sponsored you get early access or something)? Is anyone in the professional scene as excited as I am for them? Having been involved in the development of the shoe, and receiving the latest iteration a few days ago, I am very excited to test them out.
Do you take supplements, or just rely on a healthy diet? If so, what supplements do you take/recommend? I rely mostly on a healthy diet, but I take Aminos for before/after hard workouts.
What is your dosage like before and after a hard workout? I'll take two before a workout, and about 3-4 after.
Is it all worth it? Whether or not I make the team: Absolutely.
Hey David! Close your eyes. You've just won gold at the Olympics. What do you do then? Is that the top of your career? What would you do after that? That would definitely be the top of my career. Just taking a second and imagining it sent chills down my spine. Afterwards, I would come back home to my millions of adoring fans, cash in on all the big time sponsorships, but then tragically get caught smoking illegal substances, losing tons of fans and money, and fade into black.
Congrats on your awesome season last year, David! Watched you win the 1500 at the New York Grand Prix and it was awesome! Best of luck at the Olympic Trials, I'll be cheering for you all season! What is your training like in terms of mileage? I'm sure it isn't your biggest focus, but what kind of mileage do you typically hit in your training? I'm usually around 65-75 when training hard, but I get down to the 50's or even lower when racing. Right now Im in the upper 70's and may even crack into the 80's since I'm getting ready for a 5k at Payton Jordan!
Is this going to be your first big 5k? Best of luck there! Are you a hometown hero or anything when people see you running around your town? Yeah, first big one. I guess you can say I ran a big 5k at the Silicon Valley Turkey Trot in 2008, but that's still just a road race. This will definitely be my first bigtime track 5k.
Definitely not a hometown hero, but my family and friends always make me feel like a celebrity, haha.
Who is your favorite past and current teammate to train with? Favorite current teammate: Bolota Asmerom. An Olympian for Eritrea in the 5000m, the guy is a silky smooth runner, and extremely intelligent when it comes to training. Great to bounce ideas off of and do a hard workout together.
Favorite past teammate...hmm, Kevin Davis. We had some epic battles in practice back in the day. He was a 8:35 steeplechaser, and just missed dipping under 4minutes for the mile.
Do you prefer quality or quantity in your training? In other words, do you load up on weekly miles or do you run shorter, faster intervals in your training? As a middle distance runner (and especially a 1500m runner), we are unique in that we have to REALLY balance quality/quantity. I can't really choose one or the other, since I do BOTH. However, I think most coaches would consider me on the lower end of a typical MPW for milers.
Also as a middle distance runner, what type of weight/strength training do you do and how often? I do weight training about 2-3x a week, usually a mix of some free weights and Olympic Lifts. And I'll some sort of general body strength training almost every day.
What was your reaction the first time you broke 4:00 on the mile? It's actually a bit hard to describe. A combination of surprise, excitement, ecstasy. Pretty much a dream come true. And maybe a bit of badassery. If you care to watch the race, it's on video here.
That wasn't the video I was expecting. The REAL first time he broke 4 is Here. Hahaha, very true. Still my unofficial PR. Thinking about bringing it back this year!
Is that on open streets? Looks like great fun. Yeah, that was at about 2am on a Sunday night. Not blocked off or anything, just me trying to break 4minutes downhill and some buddies filming. Here's the backstory on it.
How has your training changed leading up to this summer compared to year's past(i.e more volume, tweaking workouts, different location)? No big changes, just try to stay consistent and do what worked in the past. Trying to change up too many things in an Olympic year is usually a recipe for disaster. That being said, I returned to a bit more olympic lifting, but not a huge amount.
Any idea where you're going to be opening up the season this year? Definitely opening up at Payton Jordan in the 5000m, but I may race the week before as well at Mt. SAC in the 1500m. I also already raced earlier this year in Australia, winning the Sydney Track Classic and getting 2nd in the Melbourne Track Classic.
In your opinion, is this going to be the toughest 1500 team to make in history for the US? Yes.
You said last year, you believe it will take 3:33 shape to make the team. Do you stand by that after seeing early season performances from some of the pros and college guys? Yes, maybe even 3:32. However, a lot of people do too much in an Olympic year, and we may see some injuries. In which case 3:33-34 is a bit more likely.
I can't help but remember how you scorched me in the last 100 meters of the 8 at an early meet last spring. How do you work on improving your kick? The 800m is less about speed and more about strength. I would smoke Usain Bolt in an 800m. Work on your aerobic base and VO2 max workouts. And good luck this season!
What do you feel would be the tipping distance in a Usain Bolt vs you race? Probably 700m or so. I think I would get him in in the 800 for sure, but the 600...I think he'd get me there.
That aside, I know there will be thousands of track fans out there, so I imagine it can get annoying to the athletes having so many of them ask for autographs, pictures, etc (especially for record holder guys like Lagat, Rupp, etc.)... I imagine that for most of the year, outside of big meets, most people don't recognize elite runners for who they are, so it's not like you're a celebrity and you live a normal life... But at meets, especially like the OTs, you become a celebrity among all the other track nuts for that short period of time....... So, do you get annoyed with all the attention or are you open to it? If I approached you next summer (of course when you're free, like the day after your race) would you be cool about it? Also, I know you train in the bay area.... I may be going to Berkeley for grad school in just over a year (It's actually one of my top choices, but whether I get in remains to be seen) and I'll be living out there for at least 5 years as I work towards my PhD. During that time, I'll be training to get my marathon time under 2:18 to qualify for the OT's and then if I make it, I'll be training for the Trials itself. I really don't know too much about the area, as I'm coming from the Southeast, but I'll be logging between 100-120 mpw for many months of the year, so here are some questions about the area....... Are there plenty of groups/runners out there to train with? - How's the running community as a whole? - (m)any specialty running stores? - Are there plenty of trails? If so, how close are they to UC Berkeley? - I'll be doing up to 22 mile long runs, with many miles at marathon pace, where would be the best place for something like that (preferably on asphalt/sidewalk)? - Is the Berkeley track open for track workouts, even if I'm not on the team? - Lastly, wanna' go for a run sometime around fall 2013? I'm never a celebrity, so for people to recognize me and shout my name and wish me luck and want my autograph is absolutely amazing, and I take tons of times to interact with them if I can. This past fall I went to the CA Cross Country State Meet, and I signed autographs for over 2 hours! There are tons of runners in the area, including my very own group The Bay Area Track Club. We are mostly a group of elite runners, but a group like the Strawberry Canyon Track Club would be more to your liking, and they meet fairly often. Tons of specialty running stores, but I especially recommend Transports. They have two locations, and are extremely informative and helpful. Many Cal athletes work there, and it is partially owned by 3:53 miler Richie Boulet! Down by the Berkeley and Emeryville Marina, there is a long bike path that goes by the water for miles. I've never run to the end of it, because I try to stay off of asphalt, but I imagine that would be right up your alley. Berkeley track is open at certain times of the day to the public. Whenever you see the Cal track team working out though, that usually means the track is closed. If you go before 12pm or after 5pm you should be fine though.
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